Ok besides not bending and form...what's wrong

[billf]

Videoing yourself is a real PITA (pain in the a$$). It's almost impossible to get the correct angle, full frame, over the throwing shoulder needed for accurate analysis by yourself.
Instead bring your son and grandson and make it a game with your grandson. Have your son video you both. Then you can compare to each other and have video copies of the memories together.

[LOUVIT]

Videoing yourself is a real PITA (pain in the a$$). It's almost impossible to get the correct angle, full frame, over the throwing shoulder needed for accurate analysis by yourself.
Instead bring your son and grandson and make it a game with your grandson. Have your son video you both. Then you can compare to each other and have video copies of the memories together.

lol My grandson is 6, and throws the ball down like a basketball......

I can't believe that I am still turning my wrist and not staying behind the ball, that is the one thing that I concentrate on most. I do have an issue caused by my back with turning my arm/wrist outward.(Ex..you know when people give you change when you buy something and they put the bills in your hand and then the coins on top..I usually drop the coins...lol) Is there a wrist brace that would help keeping me under or behind the ball?

[djp1080]

Louvit, I feel your pain. Yes, there is a tool that might help, but it won't do the trick. Try something that worked for me if you would.
On your backswing try turning your hand slightly clockwise. When you do it for the first time, you'll think that your palm will be facing the wall to your right. Actually try it at home first by just doing a simple swing of the ball in an area with some room around you. Turn your head and watch the ball and your hand. Get a feeling for keeping your hand behind the ball.
When you get down to the lanes, get set up on the lane and do a couple of test swings before going ahead. Then go for it.
Take a look at those drill videos I posted earlier and see if you can post your shots. Once you get your hand behind the ball and you can post your shots, you'll be in business. I hope.
Good luck!

[billf]

^^^^Exactly

[LOUVIT]

Louvit, I feel your pain. Yes, there is a tool that might help, but it won't do the trick. Try something that worked for me if you would.
On your backswing try turning your hand slightly clockwise. When you do it for the first time, you'll think that your palm will be facing the wall to your right. Actually try it at home first by just doing a simple swing of the ball in an area with some room around you. Turn your head and watch the ball and your hand. Get a feeling for keeping your hand behind the ball.
When you get down to the lanes, get set up on the lane and do a couple of test swings before going ahead. Then go for it.
Take a look at those drill videos I posted earlier and see if you can post your shots. Once you get your hand behind the ball and you can post your shots, you'll be in business. I hope.
Good luck!

thanks!!!!!

[RobLV1]

Now that we've all speculated, what does your coach say?

[LOUVIT]

Now that we've all speculated, what does your coach say?

I showed him this post and he agrees and also he has told me about my hand many times. It's a mental block I guess. I am going to take a session with him soon to reinforce some stuff. he is on here as Tampabaybob....

We were working on 1 or 2 things at a time, I stopped the coaching for a while so it's my fault. You can't get one or 2 lessons and fix everything...When I'm bowling I think I am doing what I was taught, until your coach stands and watches you and say's no you are not doing what you think you are doing........

[RobLV1]

Though we've never met in person, I've known Bob for a long time as we were both involved with BowlingIntel. The next time you practice, try this: try to throw a back-up ball, imagining that there is an eye in the middle of the inside of your elbow. That eye should never leave your intended target line. Really work on keep your hand on the inside of the ball until you can successfully back it up, or at least roll it over the thumb hole. Once you can do that, begin to rotate your hand counter clockwise, making sure that your thumb never goes left of the twelve o'clock position. Rotate through the ball, not around it. Here's the rub: if your timing is late and the ball is behind you when you get to the foul line, it is impossible not to come over the top of the ball. The good news is that there is a drill that will help you with both issues at once. Start about three to four feet from the foul line with your left foot just slightly in front of your right. Let the ball swing back and forth two or three times, keeping your hand on the inside of the ball. When you are ready to release, slide forward, making sure that your slide starts when the ball is at the top of the backswing. If the ball is still going back when you start your slide, your timing will be late. Good luck, and say "Hi" to Bob for me when you see him.

Rob Mautner

[LOUVIT]

I have never wore a brace, I am thinking of getting this to try, just seems to me that it will affect how the ball will fit my hand since it covers the palm and the thumb crease.. Am I correct? I read the reviews and all seem to love it on BB.com..

also how do you pick a size, I have small hands but not skinny...I guess a large

http://www.bowlingball.com/products/...ht-handed.html

[Amyers]

I have never wore a brace, I am thinking of getting this to try, just seems to me that it will affect how the ball will fit my hand since it covers the palm and the thumb crease.. Am I correct? I read the reviews and all seem to love it on BB.com..

also how do you pick a size, I have small hands but not skinny...I guess a large

http://www.bowlingball.com/products/...ht-handed.html

The braces do effect fit and don't expect it really to solve either of the problems your having. A brace will not generally help a lot with getting your hand properly inside the ball or keep you from turning your wrist. The braces are great if you have weak wrist and the ball breaks back but doesn't help a lot with getting behind the ball and doesn't stop early turn at all in my opinion.