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    Quote Originally Posted by fordman1 View Post
    How do you know that? I bet they grab them with both hands and step in both legs at the same time. Like a Fireman.
    Final answer if you want to bowl a nice series you have to do three things throw strikes, make spares and get a few breaks.
    No matter your goal 300, 600, 700, 800 or even 900.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chip82901 View Post
    EXACTLY! Being that I've dealt with the criticism my entire life (still do to this day), I have to stick up for it, because it's what I do. If it were illegal or banned, as some people want it, where would bowling be today? Honestly, answer that question. It's growing the sport as we know it. More and more people are bowling BECAUSE of the 2-handed style. That's like saying ban lefty's cuz they have the advantage over right handers as there usually isn't near the amount of right handers. Same concept. But as I stated before, we all have 60 feet, 10 pins, and the same oil to battle.
    I'm not openly campaigning for a ban on two handed bowling but since you mentioned lefties have you looked at the left side of the last few years US Open patterns? If it were possible to reduce the advantages two handers have or all high rev styles have similarly through pattern adjustments that would be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    I'm not openly campaigning for a ban on two handed bowling but since you mentioned lefties have you looked at the left side of the last few years US Open patterns? If it were possible to reduce the advantages two handers have or all high rev styles have similarly through pattern adjustments that would be interesting.
    I have actually looked at it. They've adapted the patterns. I get it. But, I was simply throwing out the idea that it's similar. I'm just trying to figure out why people bag on 2-handers so much. Just blows my mind

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    My only fear with the 2 handers is that the ball manufacturers will start leaning toward their style, which puts a lot of other people out. I know about a half dozen 1 handers that are real sorry they bought the Timeless. That ball was made for a 500+ rev bowler, and not for the average Joe. Although it is kind of nice seeing urethane making a comeback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmyb View Post
    My only fear with the 2 handers is that the ball manufacturers will start leaning toward their style, which puts a lot of other people out. I know about a half dozen 1 handers that are real sorry they bought the Timeless. That ball was made for a 500+ rev bowler, and not for the average Joe. Although it is kind of nice seeing urethane making a comeback.
    Hell, I'm a 2-hander and I'm not sure I like the Timeless yet lol. I bowl with a lefty that loves his. One thing I've heard all styles say about it though is how well it reads the lanes, which is true. I've never had anything read that well

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    Quote Originally Posted by chip82901 View Post
    EXACTLY! Being that I've dealt with the criticism my entire life (still do to this day), I have to stick up for it, because it's what I do. If it were illegal or banned, as some people want it, where would bowling be today? Honestly, answer that question. It's growing the sport as we know it. More and more people are bowling BECAUSE of the 2-handed style. That's like saying ban lefty's cuz they have the advantage over right handers as there usually isn't near the amount of right handers. Same concept. But as I stated before, we all have 60 feet, 10 pins, and the same oil to battle.
    Show me some proof that 2 handers are growing the sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargell1 View Post
    Show me some proof that 2 handers are growing the sport.
    High school bowling has grown but as a whole the organizing bodies in bowling have failed miserably. ABC/USBC membership has declined every year since the 1981-82 season. SAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortheloveofbowling View Post
    High school bowling has grown but as a whole the organizing bodies in bowling have failed miserably. ABC/USBC membership has declined every year since the 1981-82 season. SAD
    But where are the statistics that proves that high school bowling has grown due to the fact that 2 handed bowling is a thing now? All I ever seem to see are wild claims that have no studies behind them, just people making a lot of assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drlawsoniii View Post
    But where are the statistics that proves that high school bowling has grown due to the fact that 2 handed bowling is a thing now? All I ever seem to see are wild claims that have no studies behind them, just people making a lot of assumptions.
    Didn't mean to imply that. I was really just addressing the GROWING THE SPORT part of the sentence. Although 2 handers at all levels are growing in numbers. There may be a time coming in the future if participation numbers turn around that you could make a case for it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortheloveofbowling View Post
    Didn't mean to imply that. I was really just addressing the GROWING THE SPORT part of the sentence. Although 2 handers at all levels are growing in numbers. There may be a time coming in the future if participation numbers turn around that you could make a case for it though.
    I didn't phrase that well, I wasn't only speaking to high school bowling but all bowling for that matter. I think a lot of the decline in the sport is due to the aging baby boomer generation not being able to bowl or even afford to while living on social security. I think the pick up in recent years is more due to that after the lull in birthrate from 1965 to 1980 we had steady growth in births through 1990. see chart https://www.dropbox.com/s/wo1tflrswo...0boom.png?dl=0

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