Why does my much older ball hook more then newer more "aggressive" ball.

[Amyers]

Every ball thrown manipulates the lanes in some way. Truth is most of us are playing a similar break point during every game and it becomes more so on sport shots. Most of us just don't bowl on a high enough level to know it.

I really don't believe that a ball cleaned with the purple stuff removes a noticable amount more oil from a lane than a wiped ball. Maybe the real question here is did they talk about this strategy where the person who's line they were supposedly messing with could hear? Sounds like an interesting mind game more than anything to me.

If this actually made a difference the commercial of using it to help you carry ten pins (I don't believe it) would be for only one shot on your line. People have played mental games for as long as the game has been around. I don't have to mess your line up but if I can make you wonder if I did advantage me.

[RobLV1]

The person could not hear it, and it DOES result in the need to move faster and further than you would without it. Believe it or not, it's up to you!

[mc_runner]

Every ball thrown manipulates the lanes in some way. Truth is most of us are playing a similar break point during every game and it becomes more so on sport shots. Most of us just don't bowl on a high enough level to know it.

I really don't believe that a ball cleaned with the purple stuff removes a noticable amount more oil from a lane than a wiped ball. Maybe the real question here is did they talk about this strategy where the person who's line they were supposedly messing with could hear? Sounds like an interesting mind game more than anything to me.

If this actually made a difference the commercial of using it to help you carry ten pins (I don't believe it) would be for only one shot on your line. People have played mental games for as long as the game has been around. I don't have to mess your line up but if I can make you wonder if I did advantage me.

Ha, I didn't believe they would actually claim you'd stop leaving corners. But yep, right on the site it claims you won't leave any more flat 10s if you use it. LOL... isn't confirmation bias great??

[Doghouse Reilly]

A couplee of questions

Has you RobLV1 or anyone else on here personally tried that purple stuff to see if it really is this miracle ball cleaner?

Does rolling a ball across or on someone elses line automatically mean your doing something unfair?

Are there no times that's okay?

I've seen advice given here and there about just playing inside of someone elses line to find oil or whatever.

Can the other person then claim that's a unfair tactic on your part, because your drying up the area they were going to move to later on as they wore out their current line?

I doubt any ball cleaner is turning balls into lane stripping machines.

Balls jsut as they are now are vilified for vacuuming oil off the lane on every shot, by the time your ball come back any oil on it has almost vanished and is gone by the time of your next shot.

So unless your ball is oil soaked and doesn't absorb much of anything, I'd doubt cleaningg it is going to make it take much if any more oil off the lane.

Could it just be this is another case of players seeing the bowlers boogeyman?

I'd bet you if the USBC banned cleaning with anything except a towel, if someone came out with lets say "The Purple Towel" that they claimed cleaned better than microfiber.

You'd see this exact same discussion.

[Amyers]

The person could not hear it, and it DOES result in the need to move faster and further than you would without it. Believe it or not, it's up to you!

That's interesting haven't seen anyone using it here and at that price probably won't.

[bowl1820]

I'd bet you if the USBC banned cleaning with anything except a towel, if someone came out with lets say "The Purple Towel" that they claimed cleaned better than microfiber.

You'd see this exact same discussion.

This is not as far fetched as it sounds, because to a extent it has already happened.

Look up discussions about the:

Genesis® Pure Pad™ Buffalo Leather Ball Wipe Pad
Make a pure shot every time with our new ball wipe pad. Made of durable all natural genuine Buffalo Leather, the heavy nap of the Pure Pad™ effortlessly absorbs dirt and oil better than any microfiber towel or shammy ever could.
Designed to fit in the palm of your hand, you’ll notice the texture and feel the difference in weight you’ll know this isn’t just another ordinary bowling towel.

or the Storm Bowling Shammy Bowling Ball Cleaning Pad
The Storm Shammy is the ultimate oil removing pad that will bring back the tacky feel to your ball to assist in a strong backend motion. The results are tangible and work on all types of bowling balls. When Micro Fiber Towels were introduced to the bowling industry, it was a perfect solution. However, this product is so much better at removing dirt and oil from your bowling ball.

or the Master Wipe-it Dry pad
Oil is the enemy no longer. We developed the Wipe-It-Dry Pad to do just that, wipe the oil off your ball in just one pass. It works on all types of bowling balls, because it's a natural product that absorbs oil from the shell of your ball into the pores of the pad. This is a breakthrough in ball maintenance and a must-have for all bowlers.


Each of those is a small (about 5"x5"), high price ($20) ""towel"" that claims to clean better than anything else and suck the oil out of the pores on the ball.

Back when I started bowling in the Urethane days, I heard it many times "You can't use a car chamois on a ball, it's against the rule , it cleans the ball too good and alters the surface!" so it was happening back then complaining a towel cleaned too good.


here's a thought, Use the super towel with the super cleaner!

You'd pull oil out even if it was in the core and the ball would strip the lane down to the finish.

[vdubtx]

Back when I started bowling in the Urethane days, I heard it many times "You can't use a car chamois on a ball, it's against the rule , it cleans the ball too good and alters the surface!" so it was happening back then complaining a towel cleaned too good.

These "Miracle" cleaners or ball wipers will come up time and again, and it is all just something for people to complain about.

Seems many people like to just complain about their bad bowling vs. getting better and adjusting to the conditions. Every pattern on the lanes changes, so you have to be able to adjust to them. Regardless if you think the ball is taking more oil off the lane with the miracle cleaner or shammy pad your line is going to change no matter what.