Lol now my ball speed is too high.

[Ball99999]

It is incorrect. If done correctly. But as usual there are three certified coaches on this site that have stated the same thing yet it's the novice bowlers that keep saying we are wrong. Evidently instead of wasting our time and money learning the SCIENCE behind the bowling and bowler we should have just asked people without a clue.

Maybe you're just thinking it's incorrect if people are hinging it. I don't know. But I know it's not incorrect for me. Not everyone wants to hinge it, certainly a lot of pros don't.

[billf]

So if your feet move faster but your ball goes slower, contact Guinness because you are the exception to the laws of physics. No chance you are doing anything wrong. The science and coaches must be the ones that are wrong.

[Ball99999]

So if your feet move faster but your ball goes slower, contact Guinness because you are the exception to the laws of physics. No chance you are doing anything wrong. The science and coaches must be the ones that are wrong.

The article is referring to the hinge method. I use a push away, so clearly it can be different.

[Ball99999]

How can people, coaches, have taught higher for faster, lower for slower, for so many years, if it didn't work? Wouldn't they realize that they were obtaining the opposite effect? That's what I'm not getting.

[75lockwood]

This is an incorrect, old school teaching. Follow the link that should explain why better than I can. Zothan should read this too so I can stop reading about the "push away" lol

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/...inskifeb09.pdf

Interesting read, the coach that i first learned to bowl with is quite old school.

[striker12]

How can people, coaches, have taught higher for faster, lower for slower, for so many years, if it didn't work? Wouldn't they realize that they were obtaining the opposite effect? That's what I'm not getting.

ball99999 thing about the rasiing the arms up and down yes speed will change if you stay at 1 approach speed but normaly when someone eather raise's there arms or lowers them there approach speed changes ik this because i have done it i have been working on 1 speed and i still cant stay at one speed that's why my spare shot is much faster then my strike shots by 4-5mph i throw avg 18-19mph and spare hots 23-24mph.

the thing bill was trying to tell you but u never under stood if you lower your arms your feet could go faster witch puts you in the same spot you are in the first place before you move your arms ik bill is not wrong i have been told these things and more by silver and bronze coach's and alot of pba bowlers like mike fagan, norm duke, pete weber, and more i have asked them and they all told me the same things but all in different ways.

[Ball99999]

ball99999 thing about the rasiing the arms up and down yes speed will change if you stay at 1 approach speed but normaly when someone eather raise's there arms or lowers them there approach speed changes ik this because i have done it i have been working on 1 speed and i still cant stay at one speed that's why my spare shot is much faster then my strike shots by 4-5mph i throw avg 18-19mph and spare hots 23-24mph.

the thing bill was trying to tell you but u never under stood if you lower your arms your feet could go faster witch puts you in the same spot you are in the first place before you move your arms ik bill is not wrong i have been told these things and more by silver and bronze coach's and alot of pba bowlers like mike fagan, norm duke, pete weber, and more i have asked them and they all told me the same things but all in different ways.

No I understand it. I just think that him saying "incorrect" is just wrong. There are different ways different people bowl.

[striker12]

No I understand it. I just think that him saying "incorrect" is just wrong. There are different ways different people bowl.

yes everyone bowls different but i agree with bill saying "incorrect" i can stay at the speed me feet go and change where my hands start and the ball will eather increase or decrease but if my speed of my feet change in speed the ball will not have increased or decreased because my aprroach speed is different like for ex:

if i had a fast approach i will have a fast throw with my hands being at my chest but if i left my hands where they where and slowed my feet down alot my speed of my ball would go down the lane slower then when my feet where fast.

[Ball99999]

speed was high, but does the rev on the ball match with your speed? if not, then speed will take over and will not hook

Yeah that's the problem pretty much. I sanded my ball so hopefully it has more grab.

Oops that was from the first page

[Brother_jd]

This is an incorrect, old school teaching. Follow the link that should explain why better than I can. Zothan should read this too so I can stop reading about the "push away" lol

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/...inskifeb09.pdf

Awesome article Bill. I am a pushaway guy and am gonna give this a try in practice before league on Friday.