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    Default Bowl GREAT against some teams, and POORLY against others (:?

    Have you ever noticed that when you bowl some teams, you always have a GREAT series, then another team you always seem to do poorly!
    Could it have anything to do with their bowling styles? Where they throw their balls, and push the oil! or is it just my imagination!?
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    Now that i think about it, the teams i bowl badly against are usually thumbless or 2 hand crankers with a combination of straight bowlers on the team. I suppose its possible that it could be from the shifting of oil
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    I think as "teams" we can sometimes bowl worse against worse teams and better against better teams. You sort of raise or lower your game to their level.

    But individually...I hate bowling teams where they have 1,2,3,4,5 bowlers that are all carrying really, really high averages and low handicaps. Seeing guys right there in front of you bowling 287-236-264 while you're trying to get excited over your chance at breaking 200...it's just humiliating. Plus...if your team DOES pull out the victory...it's usually because of handicap...so did you "really" beat them?? Not really.

    My goal for the teams I play on is to always try and beat the other team scratch. That way they can't whine about sandbagging or handicaps. But I have to admit...tonight, sanctioned league...it's gonna be TOUGH. 3 of the 5 opposing players sport averages around 210. And these guys are the real deal Holyfield...I've often found myself glancing over at these guys...and man...you'll see....X 9/ X X X X X X ....etc... And you don't have to see it...you can HEAR it. The pins explode when they hit them...it makes that "perfect sound" that you are pretty sure is a strike.

    But...just gotta remember...if I bowl above my average....thats all I can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I think as "teams" we can sometimes bowl worse against worse teams and better against better teams. You sort of raise or lower your game to their level.

    But individually...I hate bowling teams where they have 1,2,3,4,5 bowlers that are all carrying really, really high averages and low handicaps. Seeing guys right there in front of you bowling 287-236-264 while you're trying to get excited over your chance at breaking 200...it's just humiliating. Plus...if your team DOES pull out the victory...it's usually because of handicap...so did you "really" beat them?? Not really.

    My goal for the teams I play on is to always try and beat the other team scratch. That way they can't whine about sandbagging or handicaps. But I have to admit...tonight, sanctioned league...it's gonna be TOUGH. 3 of the 5 opposing players sport averages around 210. And these guys are the real deal Holyfield...I've often found myself glancing over at these guys...and man...you'll see....X 9/ X X X X X X ....etc... And you don't have to see it...you can HEAR it. The pins explode when they hit them...it makes that "perfect sound" that you are pretty sure is a strike.

    But...just gotta remember...if I bowl above my average....thats all I can do.
    had this problem when i first started from being intimidated by averages to other teams whining about handicaps. Bowling by myself in practice and doing weird things like the shift technique helped me a lot in being comfortable in my bowling skin(going from a 120-->190avg also helped). Also i realized that most people have no idea what theyre doing when they bowl, they just know where they have to shoot it for a strike
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    Even if true it doesn't matter. You can't win every week. Even if your team went on a hot streak it would almost for sure mean you are bowling over your team average week after week. Eventually your handicap will drop to the point where you will start to lose, that is unless there are members of your team that are raising their average because they are improving all season long. If you have team members that are getting better and better, then over time you are going to rise to the top.

    If you are on a handicap league and there is a team that dominates because all the members have really high averages, and they win year after year, then the handicap system of your league needs to be revised. Those guys should either be bowling a scratch league or the handicap system should be such that it evens the playing field even for them.

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    Having a lot of bowlers throwing in the same area will affect the oil carry down. The pace of the game can also affect your bowling to a degree. In the end though it's really all on "you." Bowling is an offensive game, there is no 3-4 defense the other team can deploy.
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    Default I wish there were more Scratch leagues around!! too much sandbagging!!

    Quote Originally Posted by circlecity View Post
    Having a lot of bowlers throwing in the same area will affect the oil carry down. The pace of the game can also affect your bowling to a degree. In the end though it's really all on "you." Bowling is an offensive game, there is no 3-4 defense the other team can deploy.
    Good point! The team we bowled Thursday, just behind us in the standings, took,,, TOOK their time bowling, going out to smoke, In the bar, and some just lagging,,,, like they were trying to throw our rhythm off! None of us smoke, or Drink, so we are waiting,,, waiting!!!! all night long...

    I actually think it was done on purpose. at least that's what teammates were saying... O well we bowled well below are averages as a group other then Manic, (my wife),,, You know how it goes.... down today, Up tomorrow!! We will get them next time.... We are still in 1st!

    When you have to give handicap pins, you really never really win..... It like running a 100 yard dash, against a guy that starts out 50 yards ahead of you! Did he really win... NO,,, with help they did win a few..

    And yes,, I would love to bowl scratch,,, but try to find one!! 98 percent of them are handicap... I am not a bowling god, many better bowlers then Iceman, probably,, I think,,, but I can take getting losing if its an even playing field! So much sandbagging out there, it happened Thursday night, After we gave them
    Godzilla amouts of pins,,, in the ten frame when they knew that had won that game, he said should I throw it in the gutter.... out loud! gurrrrrr!!!! Iceman almost had a melt down!!

    ONE thing I can promise you this is: NONE OF US SANDBAG!! Sandbagging is almost as bad as stealing! It should be punishable with 5 years in prison!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    ONE thing I can promise you this is: NONE OF US SANDBAG!! Sandbagging is almost as bad as stealing! It should be punishable with 5 years in prison!
    out in 6 months with good behavior, Chain gang!!
    I agree about sandbagging. They should have a sandbagging court and if you get convicted you can't bowl for a year or something.
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